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Messianic Judaism - ChristianYears ago when I first began to take a look at Messianic Judaism I was under the impression that they were Jewish yet believed that Jesus of Nazareth was indeed the Jewish Messiah. But I soon discovered that this was not the case. In fact modern Messianic Judaism – to use a Scriptural description – is really more like a “wolf in sheep’s clothing”.

I’m sure many people have heard about “Jews for Jesus”. And perhaps just as I did originally, many may perceive them to be just what their catchy group name suggests, Jews that believe in Jesus as the Jewish Messiah. Some may even perceive them to be a branch of Judaism that is simply reclaiming the faith that Jesus, his Apostles, and Paul all practiced in the 1st Century. But nothing could be further from the truth.

In reality groups like “Jews for Jesus” and most other “Messianic Jewish” groups are really mainstream Christian organizations that have been created with the sole purpose of converting Jewish people to Christian beliefs. Now I have no problem with anyone going out and proselytizing others to their religion. But the covert methods used by these missionary groups is unethical and is what makes them “a wolf in sheep’s clothing”.

This is well known and fought against by “counter-missionary” Jewish groups such as Outreach Judaism and Jews for Judaism. Here is what they have to say about the issue respectively:

“Such congregations are designed to appear Jewish, but they are actually fundamentalist Christian churches which use traditional Jewish symbols to lure the most vulnerable of our Jewish people into their ranks.”

“Leaders of these groups are often ordained Christian ministers who are specifically trained in techniques for converting vulnerable Jews. Members of these groups deceptively use Jewish symbols (such as Stars of David) and language so as to appear Jewish, their goal is to take Jews away from Judaism and to bring them into the Christian Church. Jews for Jesus actually considers itself an arm of the evangelical church. On the local level, much of the “Hebrew-Christian” movement is organized in the form of churches which call themselves “Messianic Synagogues” or housed as separate ministries and congregations in larger churches. These groups use Jewish trappings such as yarmulkes, talesim, Torahs, Jewish music and Hebrew to hide their Christian nature from potential converts.”

And the biggest deception of the Messianic community has historically been the hiding of THE central dividing point between Christianity and Judaism – The Trinity / Divinity of Jesus. This is pointed out by Rabbi Bentzion Kravitz of Jews for Judaism in his article entitled “Messianic Truth in Advertising”. In it he says (emphasis mine):

“It is misleading for them to claim that the only difference between “messianic Jews” and other Jews, is their belief that Jesus is the Messiah. This was highlighted by Myers’ recent quote in the Jerusalem Post comparing messianic Jews to messianic Chabadniks. In fact, “Messianic Jews” intentionally avoid mentioning a fundamental difference. In addition to believing Jesus is the Messiah, they believe he is God in the flesh and part of a Trinity. Beliefs considered idolatrous by all denominations of Judaism.”

“As early as 1980, Jews for Jesus founder Moshe Rosen in his book “Sharing the New Life with a Jew,” advised messianic missionaries to avoid mentioning their belief in the deity of Jesus because it makes witnessing to Jews extremely difficult. Additionally, attempts by the messianic movement to prove their theology from biblical and rabbinic sources are based on misquotations and mistranslations.”

“Even before Christianity, Jews rejected these anti-Jewish non-monotheistic beliefs. We also realize they were introduced into Christianity due to the influence of pagan cult gods like Osiris and Dionysus.”

“Obviously there are other differences. “Messianic Jews” accept the Greek New Testament as divinely inspired scripture and they believe that all Jews who don’t believe in Jesus face eternal damnation in hell. However, historically it is their idolatrous beliefs that have ultimately placed “Jews who believe in Jesus” outside the pale of Judaism.”

This is further demonstrated to be the case by a rare, TRUE Jewish believer in Jesus as the Messiah – as the real human Messiah, NOT God in the Flesh – whom I discovered while doing some web searches one day. His name is Rabbi Louis Baruch Vos Levitz and he runs an independent Synagogue in Woburn, MA along with a web site called http://www.shomeryisrael.org/. On his site Rabbi Louis presents an excellent article entitled “Why Messianic Judaism is Not Judaism”. Here he further describes the issue in the following way:

“I believe the real issue is that the Messianic Movement has failed or desists to make, a clear unambiguous declaration to the Jewish community of what they really believe about the Messiah. Their public statement and proclamation focuses on the fact that they believe that the Messiah has come and will return, and so does a large number of Orthodox Chassidim, and that I do not have an issue with. However, what the Messianic Movement believes about the Messiah is not the same for Chabbad, or us. The Messianic community purposefully omits to make a public declaration of their principal belief, that the Messiah is ABSOLUTELY God. This is the dividing point – where their theology parts with Lubavitch Chassidim, our congregation, and authentic, ancient Jewish belief and practice. There never has been a monolithic Jewish understanding of the person of the Messiah, but one thing is for certain, the Messiah is the anointed of God and not God himself. This omission by the Messianics is far more revealing than we think; it actually defines who they are, Hebrew Protestants. This omission, I believe, is the greater offence.”

Rabbi Louis goes on to point out that belief in Jesus as the Messiah has never been the main stumbling block for Jews. There have been many Jews who have believed certain men were the Jewish Messiah. In fact many members of the Jewish ultra-orthodox Chabad Lubavitch believe that their great Rebbe (Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson – who died in 1994) is the Messiah and will return from the dead to bring about the “Olam Ha-Ba” (the Messianic Age).

However it is making the Messiah literally be God that causes the remotely knowledgeable Jew to rightly turn away. Rabbi Louis reminds us of this with:

“What does offend and has created a division between Yeshua and the rest of the Jewish world, is the deification of this Jewish man and the superimposition of gentile traditions upon his faith and person.”

So the one litmus test that appears to define the difference between Judaism and Christianity is the deification of the Messiah vs. the Messiah as a real human being. You just can’t be Jewish and believe that the Messiah is/was God in the flesh. If you do, then you’re theologically Christian whether you’re ethnically Jewish or follow Torah and practice traditional Jewish customs.

34 Responses to “Messianic Judaism – a WOLF in Sheep’s clothing to Judaism and true Messianic belief.”

  1. on 03 Aug 2008 at 7:50 pmSean

    Thanks for this article. I was privileged to speak to an orthodox Jew last weekend (she was born and raised in Israel). I asked her if she would be willing to consider the historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. She had been so jaded by previous Christian encounters that she was completely unwilling even to consider it, because to her Jesus = Pagan, because the Christians believe that Jesus is God.

  2. on 04 Aug 2008 at 1:07 pmisrael

    When asked if I believe Jesus is God, in addition to saying no, I clearly state up front that scripture does not give us the warrant to say such of him at all. Instead scripture only allows the idea that he is the Word of God, the Memra. Does this mean he is divine? Well, is the Memra, God? No he is not God. But is the Memra called HaShem? Yes, for the name of HaShem is on him. Thus who then is Yeshua? The Word of God. To say anything more would be to attempt to define God and His Word, and put him in a box in order to control him. We should be content with the glory that he has revealed to us through the Torah, and through the risen Messiah, Yeshua ben Yosef shel Netzaret.

  3. on 04 Aug 2008 at 3:26 pmRon S.

    Sean,

    Thanks.

    Your experience with the Orthodox Jewish woman is quite typical for many Jewish people. The “J-word” (as they sometimes use to refer to Jesus) is indeed something that can immediately put them on the defensive. They view the concept of Jesus as a pagan polar opposite of true Jewish belief. And centuries of anti-semitism, hard-core conversion attempts, and pagan twistings of their Hebrew Scriptures have made them extremely leery of all believers in Jesus. Which is tragic in our case as we would be the first to side with them in their singular conception of God and that Jesus as the real human Messiah is not literally that God, but his ultimate human representative – the “Second Adam”.

    We as true Unitarians need to do as much as we can to let our Jewish brothers and sisters know that not everyone who believes that Jesus IS the Messiah, believes him to be God in the flesh. Yet that will be much more problematic with the ruse of Messianic Judaism making real Jews all the more suspicious. It is for this reason that I wanted to write the article so that we here at kingdomready can have this in mind if and when we come in contact with orthodox Jews – as I’m sure that 99.9% of them think that any who believe in Jesus also thinks he is God.

    Also we should be aware that because of the Messianic deception, the Jewish counter-missionary efforts of “Jews for Judaism” and Rabbi Tovi Singer’s “Outreach Judaism” are coming out guns blazing against Jesus being the Messiah. They’re out to not just disprove the Messiah as God (as we would as well), but they take it nine steps further and aim to discredit him totally with things such as the “Messiah Resume Challenge”, counters to Isaiah’s suffering servant, and a smearing of Paul and the New Testament (to name a few).

  4. on 04 Aug 2008 at 4:06 pmMark

    Also we should be aware that because of the Messianic deception, the Jewish counter-missionary efforts of “Jews for Judaism” and Rabbi Tovi Singer’s “Outreach Judaism” are coming out guns blazing against Jesus being the Messiah. They’re out to not just disprove the Messiah as God (as we would as well), but they take it nine steps further and aim to discredit him totally with things such as the “Messiah Resume Challenge”, counters to Isaiah’s suffering servant, and a smearing of Paul and the New Testament (to name a few).

    I would like to know more about these things and how to respond to them. Perhaps a new article can address that.

  5. on 05 Aug 2008 at 5:49 pmJoseph

    Ron,

    Messianic Judaism is a touchy subject, I have been in this way of life for some time now, and have discussed the topic many times. As you pointed out, there are many taking on the title, but going against the foundational beliefs of Judaism, specifically Monotheism. The Trinity is one of the big obstacles in the way of true Monotheism, by way of Judaism.

    Other issues that determine Jewish status that will arise are:

    – Biblically, how does one convert to Judaism?

    – One is Jewish, yet can’t prove it with documents.

    – Ones Father is Jewish, but Mother is not, are they Jewish?

    – Aren’t all Jews in essence, Messianic (belief in a Messiah)?

    – Is a Jew still Jewish regardless of their present beliefs?

    – Does Scripture imply that Gentiles are also to be observant of Jewish Law?

    I have Jewish friends living in Israel that have been at the forefront of the Christ believers in Israel for over 20 years now. Uri Marcus is one of them, and he is not a Trinitarian. I believe that his synagogue may be the only one in Israel that upholds Torah while not believing in the Trinity. There is another congregation that I attended in BeerSheva, they uphold the Trinity doctrine and many do not observe Halacha (Jewish Law). While I don’t agree with the foundational beliefs of the BeerSheva congregation, I still keep a close bond to them as family in Christ. I see no reason in siding with the counter missionaries of “Jews for Judaism” or “yad l’achim(Brothers in Arms).” I believe that it is important for Unitarians or Trinitarians Jews to unite in the struggle for status in Israel. If the Trinitarian Messianic goes, then you can count on the Unitarian Messianic to follow.

    Currently, there is a law suit that has been filed by the BeerSheva congregation for the harassment they get from counter missionaries, particularly the political sect, Shas. I have been at the congregation service when counter missionaries show up (on shabbat!), and wave flags and yell obscenities while children stand there and watch. To these counter missionaries, the belief in Trinity does not matter, it is belief in Jesus as Messiah is what motivates them to picket Messianics.

    The point I am making is that sometimes we may need to side with the wolf in order to take care of the bear. Let’s face the facts here, almost all Jews will not accept Christ as Messiah regardless of Trinity or Unitarian beliefs. They have many other reasons that have been taught to them to deny Christ. But I will agree that the Trinity has been one of the main stumbling blocks toward the Jew.

  6. on 06 Aug 2008 at 1:54 pmBrian

    I was just listening to some of Rabbi Tovi Singer. His presentation on sin and atonement causes me to think that atonement is probably just as big an obstacle to someone who is Jewish as the trinity. Some of the way he spoke was quite shocking to me. It helps one understand why so many had problems with Paul in the first century.

  7. on 06 Aug 2008 at 1:56 pmBrian

    Also, this verse comes to mind:

    1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

  8. on 06 Aug 2008 at 10:24 pmMark

    Brian,

    I’m not familiar with Rabbi Tovi Singer. Could you elaborate on his views about atonement and how they are an obstacle?

  9. on 07 Aug 2008 at 3:36 pmRon S.

    Mark,

    “I would like to know more about these things and how to respond to them. Perhaps a new article can address that.”

    That’s a good idea. I’ll try to do a new article on the various counter missionary arguements.

    Also, I think I can answer your question to Brian:

    “I’m not familiar with Rabbi Tovi Singer. Could you elaborate on his views about atonement and how they are an obstacle?”

    Rabbi Tovia Singer is one of the top counter missionaries in the world and has his own radio show on Israel’s National Radio and runs the counter missionary web site – Outreach Judaism.

    Here’s what Wiki says about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tovia_Singer

    And here’s one of his site’s articles against the atonement of Jesus:
    http://www.outreachjudaism.org/jesusdeath.html

    Ron S.

  10. on 08 Aug 2008 at 1:46 amJoseph

    That’s a good idea. I’ll try to do a new article on the various counter missionary arguements.

  11. on 08 Aug 2008 at 1:48 amJoseph

    Ron,

    Sorry about the above post, I agree the idea if an article on the arguments of counter missionaries will yield great discussion.

  12. on 08 Aug 2008 at 2:39 pmPatty

    I have looked at this web site and would appreciate further discussion. It appears to me that what they are saying is well thought out and as Christians we would do well to become more familiar with the old testament so we could more accurately understand the truth .

  13. on 19 Dec 2008 at 5:18 amChristian for Moses

    As I couldnt find an emailaddress overhere, by means of a comment I wanted to let you know of a discussion going on at my blog on the Prologue.

    http://christian4moses.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/the-prologue/

    Blessings,

    Daniel

  14. on 13 Jan 2009 at 12:32 amMeir

    I am currently in the process of moving shortly from New York City
    to Massachusetts.I have been in the Messianic movement just over
    twenty four years and only within the last seven months have I come to a change of heart on my view of Yeshua.
    I was buying the Man-God thing for a long time and deflecting the
    criticisms from outside the hebrew christian,and messianic communities.
    Fortunately,NOT being in a position of leadership,it gave me a chance to take a breath and re-evaluate the “deity issue” with
    no pressure or axe to grind.
    I have met Rabbi Louis personally and plan to attend his synagogue
    up in Woburn.
    It is unfortunate that many Jews are throwing out the baby AND
    the bath water by being force fed this false christian doctrine of Deity.Some former messianics as well as anti-missionaries do not believe in Jesus/Yeshua as G-D or the Messiah.
    This is a sad situation,indeed !!
    They lose their relationship with Messiah,due to being taught these
    lies,and thereby reject the whole package.
    I am glad for courageous men like Rabbi Louis who are willing to take a stand for Judaism,Torah and still honor the number one Tzaddik of all time,Yeshua Hamaschiach.

  15. on 27 Apr 2009 at 2:18 amnadia

    I am doinr research for last 19 yr.,Messianic jews do have complitly different doctrins than Christians But Ido not know why is the same spirit operating in Pentecostal,Charismatic movement.The spirit of Baal,Baalzebub is operating in Messianic movement It is definitly not th spirit of the God of Abraham,God of Israel Dos somebody know how is it posible ,they are keeping torah Please enlighten me

  16. on 17 Aug 2009 at 3:32 amcurls

    This is misleading. Judaism does not allow for believing Jesus is the messiah EVEN IF NOT worshipped.

    The messianic age is not here. The Lubavitch ideas were short lived in their grief & not playing a significant role in the whole movement anymore.

    And to focus on a messiah without a messanic age, is to miss all the huge differences between the Christian groups & Judaism.

    Judaism does not focus on afterlife, has no hell, not blood or human sacrifice to save, no need to be saved, no original sin, & totally different approach to Torah study (including non-literal & debative), does not see sin in everything…

    ……
    As Jews we move the goal posts to THEIR game too often. We don’t need to move to just the “divinity” as our post. It is EVERY one of these differences & many more, that make these groups Christians & not Jews. We should have enough self-respect to say so at every turn.

    Ops – I just figured out this IS a Christian site. Sorry folks, you are welcome to change your worship to make it less Pauline, but not to pretend you are Jewish in any way. The name is taken. Good honest options are non-Pauline Christians or Messanic Believers. Spirituality that forces itself onto others & steals their identity & name, is not spirituality.

  17. on 08 Feb 2010 at 10:06 amDaniel

    Shalom

    Maybe this article you wrote is not actual yet.

    But if your still interested in a discussion about the issue of messianic jews, you may have a look at our website.
    http://www.chai.ch/jmg/web/englisch-home.html

    Although our site is mainly in german language, since we are located in switzerland, You will find some articles inenglish that could make you think a second time about your statement.

    Yes, in general you are right and I do agree, but… read it – and discuss it with me again after.

    Best regards
    Daniel Seidenberg
    jewish messianic teaching ministry switzerland

  18. on 08 Feb 2010 at 3:26 pmJaco

    Hi, Daniel

    I’m from South Africa and speak Afrikaans (former Dutch dialect). But I still battle to find the articles on the identity of the Messiah (according to your beliefs). Where do I search under?

    Jaco

  19. on 16 Mar 2010 at 6:18 amMarysia

    For those who do not believe Jesus is God there is a lot of information on this web site http://www.fatherandsonministry.net
    The Jewish people who believe in Messiah as God’s Anointed One would find a lot of interest in the articles here.
    If people are tired of being fed on milk and would like to go on to the meat in God’s Word, this is the place.
    Blessings
    Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

  20. on 31 Mar 2010 at 2:46 pmcs

    There is another view that isn’t trinitarian. Yet, still holds to the strict monotheistic decrees of the Torah. If you are a believer in the New Covenant Letters and Gospels then there is no possible way you can deny the deity of Jesus Christ without denying the letters and Gospels. The letters were written before the Gospels and lays out a very sound case for the deity of Christ from the pages of the Law and the Prophets. In Isaiah scripture declares the LORD will save his people, that the savior would be a child and son but with the deity of eternal Father, mighty God, and so forth.

    There is not a composite unity in one being, borders on a personality disorder, but there is One God revealed to humanity as the Messiah. Revelation 1 tells that there is one who has come and who is coming who is the first and the last and Almighty God, in Zacharia scriptures tell us that the Lord will place his feet on the mount of olives and they shall behold him whom they have pierced.

    I’ve never understood the concept of One God sending another person God to save his people but I can understand that God loved us so much that he came to save us. No greater love.

  21. on 31 Mar 2010 at 7:39 pmMark C.

    I’ve never understood the concept of One God sending another person God to save his people but I can understand that God loved us so much that he came to save us. No greater love.

    Actually, the Bible says neither.

    “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16).

  22. on 01 Apr 2010 at 11:50 amRon S.

    CS,

    “There is not a composite unity in one being, borders on a personality disorder, but there is One God revealed to humanity as the Messiah.”

    It sounds like you are a “Oneness”/”Jesus Only” believer – or if you prefer – the more historical term “Modalism”.

    The problem with this view IMO is that it makes the Bible worthless and unreliable. Such a view shows that God can not be trusted – that He deceives us. You see over and over the “Original” Testament foretold that the Messiah would a human being – a descendant of Eve, of future Son of King David – “one like Moses” that would come out of/from the Hebrew people. Making Jesus & the Father the same literal being falsifies these prophecies. God walking around in a “man suit” pretending to be the SON OF GOD is an outright sham. It is deception of the highest order at Jesus’ baptism to have a voice from heaven saying “This is my beloved SON with whom I am well pleased”. Why the elaborate “parlor trick”?

    The bottom line is that God is no “2nd Adam” as Paul said Jesus was. God created Adam! We must allow the Bible’s plain, unambiguous words to mean what they say. Words like “Son of God”, “Messiah/Christ”, “man”, etc. mean exactly what they mean. Special pleading after special pleading that must be used to twist and contort how these simple words can be “shoe-horned” into an illogical way that God acts as a man and pretends to die for us is against the whole of Scripture.

    And that my friend is one of the reasons I originally wrote the above article. Judaism fully knows that God is one and that His Messiah was to be a real Hebrew man that God appoints as His Messiah. Therefore Messianic Judaism that worships a Trinitarian God (or even possibly using your Oneness view – the one God acting as Jesus) is not what their Scriptures (the Christian Bible’s OT) promise. Jews knowledgeable in the Tenach, know the Messiah was promised to be fully human – a real human man that God anoints with His power to bring about God’s will to fruition on earth! Any deviation from that is bogus and not trustworthy.

  23. on 02 May 2010 at 5:21 pmRay

    Is Jesus God in the flesh?

    I think there’s a sense in which Jesus was “God” while he lived on this earth in the days of his flesh, but now we know him no more after the flesh. (II Cor 5:16)

    Now the sense in which I say we can refer to Jesus as being “God”
    is because God is light, and so is Jesus. He was the light of the world and I trust that he still is that today. God is love and Jesus also was. I trust he is the same today in that regard also.

    As to whether or not he is a part of a Trinity, I think I will need to wait until I hear him answer that for himself. I see no need for me
    to teach Jesus that way. Though I do not see Paul, or Peter, or anyone else in the Bible teach Jesus that way (as part of a Trinity)
    but some people say that they do. That seems to be their perspective of things pertaining to God and his Son Jesus our Lord.

    It seems to me that I do not necessarily have to see things exactly that way. I do not see the requirement of this in scripture and I don’t feel any conviction of God to see him and Jesus in those exact terms, or to convey the gospel in such a perspective using their terms.

    I trust there are many in heaven who got there by Christ who did not live their lives under the authority, or practice of speech which is unique to Trinitarians or a Trinitarian system.

    I believe Trinitarians have the freedom to share the gospel as they believe is right. Their perspective might not be exactly right
    in God’s sight. God is and will be the judge of us all in these things.

    I believe we have a lot of liberty in Christ. It is a wonderful thing
    and a great responsibility.

    If Jesus teaches the Trinity doctrine I will have to come under it’s authority to be right and to be in heaven with him and all the saints, beings, creatures, and created works. I can’t say for sure that I have noticed him teach it.

    It seems to me that men do a lot of things that are not necessarily
    God working through them though he does indeed work through those who call upon his name by his grace which is in Christ.

  24. on 03 May 2010 at 6:17 pmRon S.

    Ray,

    I don’t know if you’re just being philosophical here or what, but I felt compelled to comment on a couple of things you said.

    First:

    “If Jesus teaches the Trinity doctrine I will have to come under it’s authority to be right and to be in heaven with him and all the saints, beings, creatures, and created works. I can’t say for sure that I have noticed him teach it. “

    I CAN say for sure that he didn’t teach it since it is not anywhere in Scripture. And I feel almost 100% sure that when he returns, he won’t be teaching it since Jesus is a Jew. Please keep that in mind when thinking about Jesus. Jesus gave the definite Jewish reply when asked what is the most important commandments. He replied first & foremost – “Hear O Israel, the Lord our God the Lord is ONE” (Mark 12:29). That is “The Shema” – THE central tenet of strict Jewish monotheism. Combine that with John 17:3 and Mark 10:18/Luke 18:19 and you discover that Jesus’ plainly said that his God ALONE is God and he is not that God. Pretty simple stuff when you get right down to it.

    Also,

    “I trust there are many in heaven who got there by Christ ….”

    You’ve been hanging out here on this site for awhile now. But you still seem to be hanging on to that non-biblical “going to heaven when you die” belief system. Have you not read any of the things many of us post here on that subject? Are you just not convinced of that as yet?

    You could take a look at Mark C.’s post from today (“Old Testament Foundation Part 1“). It is really good and even has links to other stuff of his that you could read on the subject.

    Ron S.

  25. on 12 Jan 2011 at 11:08 pmYordei Merkava

    After reading all of this, I have come to realize that one important aspect is being left out of the discussion. What separates Judaism from Christianity, or Messianic “Judeo-Christianity” has nothing to do with the Messiah. Truly, Judaism is distinct from the other, because of its belief in the Oral Torah, or the Mishna, Talmud, etc. One isn’t a follower of Judaism if they do not hold to these teachings…Many faiths revere “the old testament,” yet only Judaism reveres the Oral Torah. Thus, any “Judaism” that denies the authority of the Mishna, Talmud, etc., is not really a part of Judaism. Even Yeshua and Paul knew the teachings of the Oral Torah and taught about it, and they were Jews. Paul was an expert in it, and this is why Christians, as well as most “Messianic Jews,” have no real understanding of Paul’s teaching. They just think they understand it, because of Catholic traditions and misconceptions. Most “Messianic Jews” do not revere the Oral Teachings.

    As a further note: King Cyrus was also labeled the “Messiah” in Isaiah 45:1…(see also http://www.examiner.com/christian-origins-in-national/jesus-and-jewish-messianic-expectations-part-one).

  26. on 25 Mar 2011 at 1:28 amJerry Hancock

    Yordei Merkava,

    Many men have been anointed: Not only King Cyrus. David was anointed, and so have all of those who have come into faith in Yeshua, when we first believed. Even Saul was God’s anointed!

    This is evidence and shows that being anointed essentially is a human event. God anoints people! He does not anoint himself as Trinitarians must eventually wrap their brain around if they will think about it, and also as Oneness Pentecostals must come to think as well.

    If Yeshua is God in either of those two theologies, then who did God the Father anoint when Yeshua was baptized? Clearly Acts 10:37, 38 shows he was a man anointed by the Father, and he was given power to heal the sick, and raise the dead.

    The fullness of the Godhead is in Christ Jesus bodily, and God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. (Col 2:9, II Cor 2:19)

    To say God is in Christ, or to say the fullness of the Godhead is in Yeshua, is completely different from saying “Christ is God”! Christ Yeshua is a man, and God came into him when he was anointed. God was in Christ, working through him: Christ was not God! (Acts 2:22)

    The Father gave the Son that power, and surly He would not have had to do that if in deed the Son was God as well… he would have had his own power already, because as you probably know, Trinitarians say the Son and the Father are co-equal.

    So those verses in Acts 10:37, 38 will be difficult for a Trinitarian to wrap his/her brain around and incorporate into his/her own theology. Oneness Pentecostals will have the same trouble: Will they say the Father anointed the Father? Very few Trinitarians and oneness Pentecostals it seems, has even paid attention to these verses and this concept of Yeshua being anointed: This is basic and elementary Christology which is seldom taught!

    He declared in his own words that he was a man in John 8:40. And why did he not declare that God is three persons when asked which the most important commandment is as quoted from Mark 12:29 as Ron S. showed above? The Jews never heard of any doctrine called the Trinity, and surly Yeshua would have been stoned to death if he had presented such a blasphemous heresy. So would any of the apostles. But yet the One-God doctrine is the most important of all the commandments according to Yeshua in Mark 12:29!

    Supporting Scripture that he was a man anointed by God is also found in: Acts 2:22, Acts 2:36 (God made him Christ – which means the anointed one of God), and Acts 4:27, plus many others.

    However, what you must not do is to confuse King Cyrus and any other man who was also anointed… with the man Yeshua! (Remember: Peter, and Paul and the other disciples performed miracles just as Yeshua did… Peter even walked on water!)

    Being anointed was not all there was to this man Yeshua. He was also the Son of God: Which means the fetus of Yeshua was created by God through His spoken Word and through His Spirit. God is Spirit! And Paul says he was made after the pattern of Adam (Romans 5:14) which means he had to be fully human and without a sin nature. Clearly: He is called “The Last Adam”, I Cor 15:45. Unlike the man Yeshua: Cyrus had a sin nature, as did Paul or Peter and all others. For these people, their sin nature was buried in Messiah.

    If the Second Person of the Trinity were incorporated into the holy conception and fetus of Yeshua in which he was born the man/God, (as the false doctrine known as the hypostatic union insists), then he would not only be unlike the First Adam, but he would also have been unlike Moses which Acts 7:37 contradicts and says Yeshua will be like Moses. Only a human would be like Moses… not a God/human!

    So through Mary, he was called the Son of Man, (just as we are the sons and daughters of man), because his genealogy went back to Adam – which means man, (but specifically through David, which made him the son of David as well).

    And through God’s creation of this man by the power and Spirit of God, he is called the Son of God. But not only the Son of God, because even the First Adam was also called the Son of God: Luke 3:37. He is also called the Only Begotten Son of God. To be begotten is to be generated, or created… such as in procreation: We are all begotten from our natural fathers.

    The difference between the two Adams is that one is the created Son of God, while the other is the Only Begotten Son of God.

    However, he was not anointed until he was baptized, which is when he became both Lord and Christ: Acts 2:36… (notice the lower case Lord as Trinitarian Bible translators should have written it in Psalms 110:1 to avoid confusion of the LORD and the Lord! One is adonai, while the other is adoni… and Hebraic Judaism has always seen it this way.)

    Bible translations are for the most part done by Trinitarian Theologians, and therefore many of the Scriptures have been corrupted by them to reflect their bias viewpoints. A study on this will prove out this point. Only the original writings were God breathed!

    Just as the First Adam was not God, and yet he is called the Son of God… the term “Son of God” does not mean God, as Trinitarian say it does, and neither was he the same kind of man that Cyrus or any other man ever has been: He was not procreated with a sin nature like all other humans (excluding Adam and Eve), but he was created by the Spirit of God without a sin nature. He does not compare to Cyrus whatsoever except to prove that anointing is something done to a man.

    I Corinthians 15:20 – 28, shows the fulfillment of Psalms 110:1, and the subordinate nature of the man Yeshua to God, his father. Cyrus could not have gone this far, even though he was anointed like Paul or Peter or any other man who has been anointed, except the Son of God: Yeshua!

  27. on 19 Apr 2011 at 11:39 pmYordei Merkava

    I agree with the majority of what you are saying. I too believe that Yeshua was “anointed” by Adonai, at the Baptism, as it states that the Holy Spirit descended upon him. In fact, as you know, “Christ” or “Mashiak” means Anointed or Anointing. Thus, to say that “God anointed Christ” really makes no sense, as what made Yeshua “anointed” was the Anointing, or Christ. If you read John 1, it states that the “Word” (Logos) became Flesh.” At the time of Yeshua, the term “Logos” in Greek was equivalent to the Aramaic term “Memra.” According to the writings of the period, including copies of the Torah and the Targum, the Term Memra was being used to replace the “Name of God” or the tetragrammaton. Today the term HaShem is used, meaning “The Name.” Thus, if an Aramaic thinking individual was writing the Gospel of John, which is likely the case, then the term “Memra,” would have been the term used to signify the “Name of God” and the Greek equivalent to this, was Logos. So in reality, John is saying that “HaShem” became flesh, and dwelt among us. In other words, HAshem…the voice… the spirit of the Father…the Ruach Hakodesh, was the “Anointing,”which made Yeshua Ha Mashiak…The “Anointed”… at his Baptism.

    Read more about this here: http://yordei-merkava.blogspot.com/2011/04/name-of-lord-is-word-made-flesh.html

    Beyond that…there are many “Sons of God” in scripture, beyond Adam and Yeshua. In Genesis 6, they were taking wives…in Job, they were shouting for joy…Then there are those in Psalms 82, and we all have the ability to become Sons of God throughout the New Testament.

    Also, Isaiah 4 states:Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, Cyrus… (Kol Amar “Adonai” LiMeshikhu LeKoresh)

    How do you reason that this is one anointed by “man.” Cyrus is the “Anointed of Adonai”

    Be Blessed,
    Yordei Merkava

  28. on 19 Apr 2011 at 11:56 pmYordei Merkava

    On another note Jerry, the only point I was making in the first place was that, “Judaism” really did not become “Judaism,” or “Rabbinical Judaism” until Yavneh, and the Oral Torah was created. What I find is that most “Messianics” are “Christians” trying to live as Jews or portray themselves as Jews. Yet, none of them no anything about the Oral Torah, which is what separates Judaism from all the other religions. Thus, if they do not abide by the Oral Torah, or are not Jews born by blood, then they are nothing more then what history has deemed as the “God-Fearers.” In my opinion, most of “Messianic Judaism” is nothing more then “Christians” trying to be Jewish.

    Don’t think that I am attacking them…they can do as they please. However, they are still trapped in the same way as all the other Christians are. Learning “Christianities” misconceptions of what Paul and Yeshua were teaching, without knowing the background or sources of their teachings, which can only come through the Oral Torah…(i.e. Talmudim, Mishna, etc.

    The article I posted was just something I thought people might like to read…because it was interesting to me…and somehow linked with my perceptions of the previous posts. It was never meant to be any kind of attack.

    Shalom,
    Yordei Merkava

  29. on 20 Apr 2011 at 7:37 amXavier

    YM

    I too believe that Yeshua was “anointed” by Adonai, at the Baptism, as it states that the Holy Spirit descended upon him.

    Sounds like Adoptionism to me.

  30. on 21 Apr 2011 at 6:45 amRay

    Certainly Jesus was God’s Son from everlasting. He didn’t loose his sonship by coming into this world as he did, rather he gained another kind of sonship in order to save us from our sins. Certainly Jesus was ordained and anointed of God. He needed to be thus ordained and equipped in order to fulfil his mission.

    As Jesus is the word of God, he can be considered to be the very voice of God to us. I believe it’s good for us to take notice of him that way. I believe that is of great importance.

    I believe God has spoken to us about Jesus through the things he made in the creation. Much of what he’s said by that manner hasn’t
    been seen by us yet.

    I think of Genesis 1:2,3 as being about him and how he came into this world.

  31. on 16 Oct 2011 at 8:52 amErik A.

    Interesting article!
    I recently read a study which stated “Is Yeshua G-d? Yes! Is Yeshua Hashem? Impossible!” Is Yeshua Elohim? Yes!”

    Bottom-line of that study is that Yeshua is fully human (born of a maiden, not a virgin) and not a Deity (let alone part of a “Trinity”), but that He is Elohim (which is the Hebrew word translated to the Greek Theos and later the English ‘God’). There were many other key figures that had/have the title Elohim (like judges and Moshe/Moses)! Elohim is the way Hashem rules the world via Din (judgment). Yeshua was and IS Elohim, “God” in that He is Chief Judge (he is Mashiach after all) in the Name of Hashem. But He is NEVER Hashem, because Hashem is incorporeal, invisible and Ein Sof (without a beginning or end).

    G-d Bless Everyone in His son Yeshua Mashiach.

  32. on 20 Sep 2014 at 8:14 pmSam Taylor

    In the N.T. John 17:3 Yashua claims He IS NOT G-D, Paul claims In 1 Cor 8:5 &6
    that there is but One G-D the Father. in fact if you carefully Read the N.T., you will see it does not teach the Trinity, nor the oneness theology. The Believers Believe like a few U.O.rebbis, that He came to Qualify to become the Messiah, not that He came as Messiah. To be Messiah One must usher in the Messianic Age, and Would return as messiah. What is called Xtianity is itself Foriegn to the definitions, terminologies, and readings, of the N.T.
    1 Cor 8:5&6 5 For even if there are so-called mighty ones, whether in heaven or on earth – as there are many mighty ones and many masters – 6 for us there is one Elohim, * the Father, from whom all came and for whom we live, and one Master יהושע Messiah, through whom all came and through whom we live. 7 However, not all have this knowledge
    john 17:1-3 יהושע said these words, and lifted up His eyes to the heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come. Esteem Your Son, so that Your Son also might esteem You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give everlasting life to all whom You have given Him. 3 “And this is everlasting life, that they should know You, the only true Elohim, and יהושע Messiah whom You have sent.
    XTianity is NOT based upon the N.T. but what is called “Historic Xtianity” which is totally against the writings of the N.T.

  33. on 19 May 2016 at 10:32 pmElly

    Our church Congregation believes Jews and Gentiles returning to the old paths. Yes we believe in Yeshua, however, we also believe He was a Jew and followed the Torah. They teach Sabbath observance and other Feast days listed in Leviticus 23. You can take a look at our site. Shiloh messianic.com.
    Yeshua said,” I stand at the door and knock, if any man open I will come in and sup with him. We know what was said during the holocost- that was wrong. Ha Satan only comes to steal, kill and destroy. That is not us. We have great love in our hearts for you. Tell me- why is it that a man can have a son- a horse can have a son- but God cannot? In the Beginning- God Spoke. Blessings

  34. on 13 Feb 2017 at 1:48 pmAmber

    I also know that Sunday is not the day of rest and that keeping The Sabbath Holy is Saturday. Fri @ 6pm- Sat 6pm is The Sabbath time. I can’t tell that to so many in our community, but have you ever looked at a calendar? It starts with Sunday as the first day of the work week! Sun, Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, then Sat is the last day, the day God rested on after all the creation. We arent supposed to go by the Gregorian Calendar, but the Jewish. We arent to celebrate so many America Holidays since most, especially Christmas is pagan and was considered illegal until about 1856 supposedly.

  

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