Jesus Did Not Descend to Hell
October 17th, 2009 by Ron S.
Those who believe in a literal burning hell as a place of torment (where the bad folk get sent at death), often use the NT references to God not leaving Jesus’ “soul” in hell and Jesus descending to “the lower parts of the earth” to support such beliefs. But is there validity to that? Did Jesus really go down and get tormented for the three days and three nights he was in “the belly of the earth”?
Well IMO that was a REAL SHORT TRIP if Jesus was paying for the sins of all mankind. Typically those that believe in a literal hell as a place of punishment, say that the wicked will spend an eternity there. But if that is the punishment, why did Jesus get out after three days? The rest of us have but one life and we’re to spend eternity there if we end up on the “bad list”? Yet Jesus in paying for the sins of EVERYONE only gets three days? Something doesn’t really seem logical about that.
Well I would say that Jesus only descended into the Biblical Hell – the GRAVE for three days. For the wages of sin is simply death. And Jesus did die. So if death is the payment for sin. And Jesus never did sin. Then his undeserved death really could be a substitute for us.
The following article from David Burge – who publishes a magazine of “The Conditional Immortality Association of New Zealand” and has a website for the same (called Afterlife), shows that Jesus did not go to a literal hell of any kind.
He Did Not Descend To Hell
by David Burge
A clause in the Apostles Creed says of Jesus, “He descended into hell”. This controversial statement comes after the clause that says, he “was crucified, died, and was buried” and before the statement that “He arose again from the dead.” This phrase is not found in the oldest forms of the creed. It first appears in one of two versions by Rufinus (AD 390) for whom it meant nothing more than that “he was buried”. It is not included in any other version of the Creed until AD 650 (See “How Orthodox Are We?” David Burge, Issue 16 pp. 14-16). For most people, however, it reflects a widespread belief in a supposed mission of Christ to preach the gospel to the spirits of the departed in the time between his death and his resurrection.
A minority of preachers actually suggest that Jesus went to “hell” for three days and three nights to be tormented by the Devil and his angels! Those who hold the so-called “traditional view” and wrongly believe that Christ’s promise to the penitent thief was, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43), find themselves under considerable time pressure, in this case. If Jesus died “that day”, as did the thief, but Christ went to hell and the thief to heaven, how could Jesus be with the thief “that day” in paradise? In John 19:30, Jesus pronounced, “It is finished.” This suggests that the full extent of the wrath of God against sinners had already been poured out upon Jesus as our substitute. In any case, Romans 6:23 informs us that “the wages of sin is death” not torment in hell. What purpose would be served by such a descent into hell?
Others have suggested a more complex scenario whereby “hell” is divided into two compartments known as “Hades” and “Abraham’s Bosom” (according to a literal reading of Luke 16). “Hades” is the abode of the wicked dead during the intermediate state, between death and resurrection. “Abraham’s Bosom” was the abode of the righteous dead up until the time of Christ’s own death and resurrection. With this potted geography in mind, we are asked to believe that, during the time between his death and resurrection, Jesus visited the “spirits” of the wicked in Hades to proclaim his victory there. Having done that he slipped over the divide into “Abraham’s Bosom”, not only to proclaim his victory over sin and death but to free the souls of the righteous from “paradise” (the intermediate place) and bring them with him to Heaven.
SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT?
20. A close study of these texts reveals that there is no biblical support for the traditional understanding of the “descent into hell”. ACTS 2:27 In his famous Pentecost sermon, quoting Psalm 16:10, Peter says, “[T]hou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption” (Acts 2:27, KJV). On the face of it the passage does say that Christ’s soul, or he himself, went to “hell”. However nearly all scholars today recognize that Sheol / Hades here refers to the grave (See Acts 2:27, NIV). In context Peter is comparing Jesus who rose again from the grave to King David whose tomb “is with us to this day” (Acts 2:29). This verse, therefore, lends no support to the traditional understanding of the “descent into hell”. It affirms only that Jesus died, that he was buried and that he rose again (1Cor. 15:3,4).
ROMANS 10:6-7
The passage most often urged in support of “a descent into hell” is 1 Peter 3:18-19. The meaning of this text is, however, far from clear. It has been debated at almost every point. My own understanding of the text is as follows:
- While Noah was building the Ark evil angels appeared in the likeness of men and took to themselves human women (Gen. 6:1-4 . c.f. Job 38:4-7).
- These evil angels were arrested and placed in suitable confinement to await their final judgment (2Pet. 2:4-5, Jude 6). Note that the word used of this prison is NOT any of the words regularly used for “hell”.
- It is to these “spirits in prison” that Christ went and proclaimed his victory! Note here that the word “spirit” is never used of human beings without qualification – i.e. “spirits of just men” etc, but is regularly used of angels good and bad.
- As to the timing of this proclamation, it is nowhere said that it was made during the three days between Christ’s death and resurrection. I believe it was made immediately after his resurrection! Only then could Jesus proclaim the victory he had won.
This interpretation fits the flow of the passage, from Christ’s death, to his resurrection, to his proclamation, to his ascension into heaven to be at God’s right hand. There is no room here for the traditional “descent to hell”.
CONCLUSION
- David Burge (Issue 33, March 2007)
My understanding of Genesis 6:1-4 is that those men who worshiped God, calling upon his name as Enoch did, became the sons of God being led by his spirit, the spirit of wisdom, the spirit
of Christ who was in the world but was not known by the world, and was not seen till he was born of a woman who had never known a man.
The giants spoken of in Genesis 6:4 cause me to wonder if they were the dinosaurs of old, whose bones can be seen in some of the great museums of today.
It seems to be that when sons of God fall, they can go from the highest heights to the lowest of depths.
It seems to me that Jesus went bodily to the grave, while his spirit went to God where he released it to go at the cross.
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Thank you for a great article. Ray, I’d like to reply on your post above.
David Burge’s reference to the angels in Gen. 6 is exegetically the more natural and valid conclusion.
Note that it says that man bore daughters and sons of God took as their wives any they chose. Then, what was born had to be limited in their lifespan, so God limited their years to 120 years. The Nephilim could not refer to dinosaurs, since the Nephilim were born of these daughters when “the sons of God came in to the daughters of man,” or had sexual intercourse with them.
Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 refer to angels as God’s sons.
2 Peter 2:4 speaks of the “angels when they sinned”
Jude 6, 7 compares “the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority”, with “Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after alien flesh.”
Too many unrelated factors have to be forced onto the text to give it any other meaning than this one.
As regards your comment on Jesus’ death, you are quite right that Jesus’ spirit returned to God. We just need to understand what is meant by spirit. It is the ruach (Heb.) or invisible force of Yahweh by which he, among other things, animates beings. But this whole death event of Christ meant atonement for our sins. It wasn’t a dead corpse who paid for us. Jesus sacrificed his whole being, his soul for us.
Thank you
Jaco
According to the ESV Study Bible there are various “schools of thought” regarding the identity of the “sons of God”:
As to the the origin of the Nephilim, “the term is uncertain”:
PS: From the ESV Study Bible:
Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that…
So it appears that these “giants” whoever or whatever there are or were, were before the sons of God , whoever or whatever they were, who came into the daughters of men.
It seems to me that a giant can be anything big. These “giants”
whatever or whoever they were, were in the earth in those days.
In addition, after this, there were sons of God who married the daughters of men.
Because of this I still wonder if they were dinosaurs.
Xavier,
Thanks for sharing this.
I think it is clear that options (1) and (2) from the above comment (#5) are the only 2 possibilities that fit with the Scriptures. Your comments about the “Sons of God” and the Nephilim are important observations. Sometimes we don’t have a definitive interpretation, but things can be narrowed down to the few Scriptural possibilities that could make sense.
It seems that whatever these giants were, that they no longer were in the earth. It looks like to me, that it was during that time after, that the sons of God took to them wives.
The gifts of God promote men, but gifted men who go corrupt , often use their might for serving self interests and become tyrants.
Ray, “the Nephilim [giants] were on the earth in those days—AND ALSO AFTERWARD…” [Gen 6.4]
So it appears that the so-called “giants” survived the flood. Then again…
It appears to me that the giants were in the earth in the days before the flood, then there was a time (still before the flood)
when they were not any longer in the earth, but later in Numbers
there were giants.
Ray,
The Nephilim, as seen in this context, came from the union between the sons of God and the daughters of man. In Hebrew these mighty men were called gibborim, or giants. This reference is never given to animals. In fact, in Isa. 9:6, one of the names given to Messiah would be El Gibbohr, or Mighty God.
In the case of monstrous animals, the words nachash (serpent/dragon) or tanin (monster/sea monster) would most probably have been used.
I agree with the ESV Bible on Numbers 13:33, where those Anakim were metaphorically called Nephilim, undoubtedly due to their similarity to the gibborim in Gen. 6. Much like calling Satan the Serpent due to the obvious similarities in Genesis.
Just my thoughts,
Jaco
Jaco,
These Nephilim were in the earth, as we know that they were,
(whatever Nephilim is) for we know that they were in the earth in those days, but after that, ….these sons of God (who or whatever
they were, I believe them to be the godly men who called upon the name of God) still went on taking unto them the daughters of men
(the women who were not walking by the spirit of wisdom and truth that is in Christ Jesus)
Even after these Nephilim (whether Stegasauraus or big people or whatever) were and were no longer on the face of the earth, the sons of God kept taking the daughters of men as their wives, the unglodly.
It’s entirely possible that a Nephilim in Genesis 6 is not the same as a Nephilim mentioned later on (after the flood) for the word may be as our word
“giant” which does not say by itself if it is in reference to a big person, or a big thing.
If fact, it seems to me that this verse in Genesis is saying that these “giants” (call them what you like) were in the earth and then were not in the earth, and as men who before they (the giants) were not in the earth, married wives of the ungodly, even after the
giants were no longer in the earth, they still went on marrying as they did before.
So as the time the giants were in the earth, godly men married women of the ungodly, and then after the giants were no longer in the earth,
the godly men continued to marry the ungodly women, being unequally yoked.
That’s what it looks like to me. So it seems to me that the Nephilim
before the flood, must have been a “horse of a different color” than the Nephilim that came later.