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What do you have when you have a person who is… -passionately against abortion and gay marriage (and able to explain why) -self-identified as a “conservative” -able to relate their social, cultural and political beliefs to their beliefs about God -not distinctively anchored in the historic Christian faith, particularly its beliefs about the authority of scripture, the fall, the church, the Gospel and the Lordship of Jesus Christ. These doctrines seem to play little or no part in this person’s thinking/living. Is this a disciple of Jesus Christ? Is this a picture of what the church is to produce?

I love the term Internet Monk gave to this: “limbaughization“. The Church is to produce Christians that are thoroughly shaped by the Gospel. And the Gospel is not defined by cultural or political positions in relation to the greater society.

6 Responses to “Conservatism?”

  1. on 23 Mar 2009 at 11:45 amSean

    I think the gospel is defined by God’s political position–he alone is Sovereign, thus he alone is really qualified to rule the world, not Caesar or whoever the current claimant is. The gospel of the kingdom is by definition a challenge to the powers that be. For it tells the story of God’s final victory over the kingdoms of this world when he establishes his sovereign rule on earth through his agent–the Messiah (Rev. 11.15).

  2. on 30 Mar 2009 at 2:58 pmJoseph

    Technically Conservative values have always been closer to the values of the Bible than Liberal. The name really says it. But in today’s politics, don’t confuse republican with conservative.

  3. on 30 Mar 2009 at 9:46 pmJohnO


    Jesus, the Pharisees, and Paul are all on the liberal front of their day.

  4. on 30 Mar 2009 at 10:01 pmJoseph

    John O,

    Depends what you mean by Liberal. Are you saying that they stood for abortion, drugs, homosexuality, which are Liberal values of today? As you see from the definition from below one needs to define what they mean by liberal.


    1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
    2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
    3. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
    4. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
    1. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
    2. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.
    3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
    4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.
    1. Archaic. Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.
    2. Obsolete. Morally unrestrained; licentious.

  5. on 31 Mar 2009 at 2:56 amWolfgang

    Hi Sean,

    IF there was indeed “God’s political position”, should Christians then not completely change their affiliations and allegiances with politics and country / state ? Why should believers obey a political rule other than God’s? Or should we think that God is “currently just not in power” and His followers are rightfully subjects to “a political position other than God’s”? IF so, should not such “political position” be followed seeing that it would be the one which is rightfully in power?

    Or is it clear, that God’s sovereignty is NOT about “a political position” in the first place?


  6. on 31 Mar 2009 at 9:10 amVictor

    Wolfgang – Christians should change their affiliations/allegiances. Jesus is Lord, God is sovereign. Christians then would live and act different from their non-Christian neighbors because of their adherence to Jesus’ teachings of love & truth. And at the same time, we follow the laws of the land in which we reside – because that is obeying God (I Peter 2:13-17).

    The Kingdom of God is more than a nice place to go after you die – it is God’s rule over the nations, through the Messiah.

    Isaiah 9:7 – There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness from then on and forevermore The zeal of the LORD of hosts will accomplish this.

    Revelation 11:15 – The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.”


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